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2008 Tire Rule (Final)
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oz



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maurice. If we were still on last years tire then there may be an advantage to buying a boat load of tires as you described.Fortunately this years compound is really consistant through its life as long as you don't overheat them and abuse them.You will find that the faster cars won't even be buying a tire a night because it just isn't necessary and is a waste of money.You should be able to get through the whole season at Spartan including the specials with about 12 tires.Yes poorly setup cars will burn through tires faster and some may need to do what you described.However the fast cars won't care.
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Mopar93



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris,

I know that's the reason all the Modified guys wanted to go back to the MMA (704) tire due to the fact that it will have more life than the SS tire. Thanks for the response, I was waiting for someone to respond like you did.

For that reason, there's really no point in limiting the number of tires that can be purchased in one night. As I described in my earlier post, anybody can get more tires than they will need, anyway. So, why limit it?

What's going to happen if someone is real conservative on buying tires and only has one spare and then crashes and flattens 3 tires? Instead of just going straight to Wayne the following week and buying 3 new tires, he will have to beat the system and buy 2 of those tires from other teams. Or he will have to buy used tires and maybe not get what he really needs.

A new driver coming in during the middle of the season will probably just skip the thought of racing at Spartan because he can only buy one new tire and will have to scrounge up 3 used tires. He should be able to bring his car in, unload it and go over to Wayne and buy 4 brand new tires so he can compete and enjoy racing at Spartan.

I think as long as the tire is decent and long lasting, there shouldn't be any limits imposed on how many you can buy and there also isn't any reason to impound. If it were up to me, I'd go back to the way it was in 2003. Let the teams police their own pocketbooks on tire purchases. They're not stupid. They will buy what they need and nothing more.

Maybe the Supers should be on the same 704 tire instead of the slicks? After all, that one night last year when all the Supers were on the 970 was some of the best racing of the season. They actually raced each other rather than following each other. And the crashing didn't happen like it usually does. A lack of crashing saves the drivers a lot of money and keeps the program moving along. The 704 tire would also make the crate motor a more viable solution in the Supers. Or maybe there is a comparable tire that is just a hair wider.

It doesn't appear as though impounding has helped the Supers keep a car count up. That class has been dwindling. Maybe the reason isn't just tires or impounding. But, in any case, impounding hasn't helped any. It was worth a try to see if it works, but it just seems to be more work for the teams as well as the track. I think the impounding should be done away with.

This is a Modified topic, sorry for veering off and talking about Supers.

-Maurice
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Lack o Diesel



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, now this is out on a limb and I will probably be harassed for it but.......

Some time in the future (only because things can't happen over night) I would like to see the Supers, Mods, Street Stocks on the same tire. It seems to work really well at K-zoo (in my opinion, I could be wrong). But to me it seems as though they have a good car count in all three divisions, which would be better, wouldn't it.

Perry

As far as Tires go, I like to have good spares, not scabs. So I'll get an inventory going then slack off on tires. But I'm not going to throw a scab on if I have a flat.
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oz



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maurice.
I agree 100% with you. It seems like alot of extra work to keep track of who bought what tires.If we were on last years tire then I would love the one tire a night rule but with this tire one tire a night isn't even needed.I think just switching to the hard compound tire was all that was needed to save us money.But I don't have to do the extra work to keep track of all the tires and I know I will have the opportunity to by as many tires as I need.So it's all good to me either way.
Perry ,I also agree it would be sweet to have the Supers on the 704 tire also.I think we would see some of the most exciting Super races ever due to the limited traction they would have.
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