class revamp

Dennis ONeil · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 426 Location: Eaton Rapids

Maurice, it seems that older car builders like you and others I know have fallen out of favor as far as Honda's are concerned!

Daytona Pony said,

todd metz sr. · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Charlotte

todd metz sr. · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Charlotte

Jim Leasure · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 873

Fresh ideas start here:

JRJ · Joined: 11 Jul 2009 Posts: 77

1 possibile thing you could do is, keep the current cars as is (no DOHC), offer a bounty for a non neon to win. Say like an extra $25.00, this may help bring other cars in from other tracks.

bruiser · Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 2

How about 2 pony classes if possible. One for the sohc cars that are legal now, and then one for the exotics/dohc/hondas and what not's? If they are going to drop the sportsman class then this gives ya 5 classes again. BUT, people need to know early, and there needs to be a commitment from the guys who want to build/buy dohc/exotic/hondas or what not cars.

cnaracer · Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 87

If you have a A and B class.. i would let the A run the Hoosiers!!! Let the B have the same rules.. and the A class let them have DOHC, open exhaust and like i said run on the hoosiers... If you choose to be in the A class you have to stay there...Vice versa..UNLESS someone is totally dominating in the B class, make them move up to the A class... keep it seperate.. not flopping back and forth..
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O'NeilsOddOne · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:53 pm Post subject:

I have never turned a lap at Spartan but I'd really like to try it next year; maybe not a full year but for sure to see what it's all about.

Some things to think about:

Allow the DOHC American made models into the class but make them weigh more and have a more restricted exhaust. Maybe something like Auto City's rule on motors and weight.

Allow safety wheels but make sure that they don't stick out too far past the fenders. I know the stock offset isn't available but you can get pretty close. I'm not sure but I thought I heard that the safety wheels weren't legal on Friday nights?

Ditch qualifying and go to drawing a pill Laughing

I'd be able to make Friday nights if the Ponys didn't qualify...I know I'm being selfish on this one but possibly something to think about?

-JT

lansingsportsrage.com · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 1082

JT - I'm with you, I'd like to see a pill draw. But, if they are going to have A & B mains, then you need qualifying to separate the groups.

Misty or Todd.. how long did your Hoosier Tires last ? Seems to me that a 790 tire is around $115.. which is roughly twice as expensive as a Sumi.. but if they last twice as long, then I'd be all for it.

todd metz sr. · Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Charlotte

lansingsportsrage.com · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 1082

I got the $115 price from the 970 prices at Owosso, but I knew those were the bigger tires, hence the around $115 price.. at $90 or so.. that's even better.

I had run laps on the Hoosier last year at Springport and was amazed how good they felt.. with a safety tire and a good hub I think the Hoosier tire is probably safer then a regular tire.

I do think some guys still run take offs, so they are probably paying $0 for tires, so jumping up to $90 a tire will probably be a shock, but then again, if they are running take offs, then they would probably also run hand me down Hoosiers.. a thought anyhow.

Marq Eaton #12 · Joined: 07 May 2008 Posts: 189

I really think that we need to open the rules up.

i think if we made the rules the same as owosso and auto city, we would get alot more cars.

allow 195 tires, dohc american, ajustible wear end ( for safety reasons) safety rim on the right front.

now you have to remeber that if we race on 790s you have to buy rims too.
all together your going to have about 800 dollar in rims and tires just to get started.
thats alot of money to come up with for a pony stock.

just my 2 cents

cnaracer · Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 87

my point is..LET the "A" cars run on the hoosiers.. obviously you dont have to.. but allow it.. it is a safer tire..and they last a lot longer!!! so it will end up saving you money in the long run..it is just the initial buying them..ya know.. but anyone that has ran on them will tell you they are a better tire..and will save money in the long run...
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lansingsportsrage.com · Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 1082

Are the safety rims for the hoosier wider then the ones for the street tires ?

bigboiii22 · Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 62

allowing the hoosiers in the pony stocks would be a mistake in my opinion. First of all the cost 800.00 with the rims is way too expensive for a economy class most people in this class dont have that kind of money. I know they last longer , but my concern is cutting them on a tight little track like spartan they stick out way too far . we cut 6 tires at spartan last year that would be another 600.00 all to win 100.00 I know there is 4 people who have them and want to allow them ,but we really need to look at cost for all the drivers. As far as A and B divisons I think thats a great idea , it will allow some slower cars a chance to win in the B divison that would never have a chance like it is now. Qualify 16.99 or better your in A 17.00 or slower your in B. That would give us 10 -12 in each divison roughly . For the people who have the hoosiers already , when you bought them for mid-michigan or springport the payout was 400.00 to win with a couple races for 750.00 on fridays .That is not the case here we need to keep the expense down in this class so new drivers can afford it. We plan on having 2 cars in the A divison that would be 1600.00 just on tires and rims to win 100 bucks . NO WAY . just me opinion L.Jarecki