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Jerry Garland

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 145
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: Attn Gary Fedewa or Flagmen |
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I got a question regarding the pony race on august 4th. Myself along with a few other pony crew members/drivers seen a vehicle dump a load of coolant/water all over the track in turn two during the feature and continue to go around the track for one lap then pull off. We notified the spotters of this situation (AND THEY SEEN IT) So they called it in.(good job by the spotters) After they called it in neither gary nor the flagmen threw a yellow? Now the same thing happened in the heat race earlier with the same car dumping coolant and it ended up putting a car into the wall. Can one of you three men please explain why you let this go and not give the respect to this class like you do? In my opionion this caused john ward to not win the feature because he was sliding all over in turns three and four, amongst many others that were sliding like they were on ice.
My driver was not able to make the feature due to an earlier altercation that broke our car. I applaud the actions of the pony stock director this week for stepping up to the plate and taking care of the situation. So I want to make clear that I am not on here saying that our team was screwed due to this water incedent, just all the other teams that made the feature were.
I still feel that we need to fire the flagmen because he/they aren't doing the job that they are supposed to do IMO.
A good explanation from one of you three would be kindly appreciated so that I, and other pony racers can change our minds on the flagmen please.
Jerry Garland _________________ Torg Motorsports!  |
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John Conroy
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| What's it going to take ? More cars junked, maybe one of us pony drivers getting hurt bad. I've been in the wall twice this year. 1st my fault, 2nd not so sure. We need the same respect the other classes get. The pony's are not part of some fair ground traveling show, On my 1st time out hot lapping last night the flagman had his back to me or I should say the track the hole time. What's going take, Jerry, me the spotters pony stock director all seen the water, Something needs to be done before one of us drivers gets HURT BAD. John Conroy |
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Lack o Diesel

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 230 Location: Charlotte
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't feel picked on. It's happened in the mods also on many occasions. I chalk it up to what goes around comes around. The desicions aren't always your way but if you look close they even out at some point. |
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ken#8
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: |
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HEY SPECIAL THANKS TO THE FLAGMAN FOR TAKEN ME OUT FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON.... I am very upset over this several spotters told me that before we ever got out of 2 that it was put over the radio that we have fluid all over the track in 3 4 WHY DIDNT THE CAUTION COME OUT??
I hit the wall very hard and car is totaled out because of this judgement thankly I wasnt hurt or nobody else... Im courious as to why and what is it going to take before someone does get hurt because of this action of ignoring the spotters...... THANKS AGAIN Ken |
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ken#8
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Gary or Paul I am willing to take over the FLAGMAN POSITION if interested since I wont be able to race I will help you out in this department ..... kendollarhite@comcast.net email me if interested |
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Jim B
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 120 Location: Mason
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Paul ...... let him flag the Pony Stocks.  |
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Jerry Garland

Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 145
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Ken,
is your car bent before or after the strut tower? if it is bent before the strut tower your car can be saved. if it is after the strut tower you are screwed.
JG _________________ Torg Motorsports!  |
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ken#8
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Jerry its bent bad front and rear of stut even the floor board behind the drivers seat folded up shoved the tower back about 3 inches tire was right at the firewall I had to cut some of the firewall away just so I could move it...believe me I have had 4 different people down looking at it all said the same YOUR SCREWED......... but if you would like to come down and look it over to see if there is something I can do to salvage it you are more then welcome........cell# 517-862-1728 |
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SSracer6
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 19
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not trying to diss anyone, but why don't the flagmen use the blue flag to tell people to stay low that much anymore? Hands pushing down the racetrack don't help that much. By the time you see the flagmens hands flailing through the air, leaders are starting to already blow by you. The flag is a lot more noticable. |
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Jim B
Joined: 27 Jul 2006 Posts: 120 Location: Mason
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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From what I've seen, You might as well be displaying a green flag if you use the blue or black flags  _________________ Jim Barker - Timing, Scoring & Other Stuff  |
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PaulRecher
Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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How about cars that cannot keep it under control - such as a white street stock with an aligator hanging out the side. You guys need to do a better job of watching this too!! If a driver cannot keep control of his car or maintain race speeds suited to not being a road block ( Like NASCAR rules state) You have to leave the track!! This particular person I refuse to start next to or even be in an immediate row close by because he cannot control his car!! Not to mention almost kills somone because of the crashes he creates right into the first lap.
This needs to be addressed! Many street stocks were trashed because of this. It turns the corners into a death trap for the leaders or faster cars trying to keep pace with the rest of the group.  _________________ Drive Fast, Turn Left! - 66t  |
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lansingsportsrage.com
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 1082
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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For what its worth.. I heard Gator was calling it quits.
Got that from a guy in the Turn 4 stands during the Harvest..
Again.. for what its worth. |
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jtrina
Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 38 Location: East Lansing
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: quit crying |
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This is response to Paul Recher.
For your information, the 69 car is not calling it quits. He will be there next year. I believe if you have a problem with a driver you should get some guts & talk to him or bring it to someone's attention not to bring it up after the season is done.
I have been out there all season and I seen alot of cars go out of control because something brakes. It is not the drivers fault. If you don't like driving with these people maybe you should race some place else and quit pointing the blame on other people when it could be you that can not control your car.
Just food for thought. _________________ Trina Wurmnest
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ron1r31
Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 94
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: gator |
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| well the way i see it gator is one of a few that has a real street stock. if all you other cars were brough back to run what a street stock was to be then maybe you wouldn't be so damm fast. from what i see is most of you have limited lates. the street class has got way out of hand. and i think trina is right if you don't want to run beside gator them pass him. gator may be you are getting to old to race with all them fast boys. |
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schinde
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 416
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Ron, you are right. Gator's car is truly a street stock, and Gator has every right in the world to be out there on that track running in that class.
Gator has a lot of fans, both in the pits stands and in the regular stands, it is good to see someone that is trying to campaign a car without a lot of money. And, given that Gator scored 9th in points overall for the season says a lot for his dedication to this sport. Always at the track and always giving his best, and always enjoying the hell out of his time on the track.
Like Ron said, if someone doesn't want to run with Gator, pass him. And, if someone can't pass him, it seems to me that he is not quite as out of control as one may think he is.
Local short track racing is not NASCAR, and thank God it isn't. If there was a minimum speed requirement (maintain race speeds suited to not being a road block) is how I think it was phrased, we would see even less cars in the pits, and our sport is already in trouble. If Gator is so slow as to be a road block, then passing him should be easy, find the spot and go around.
Also, I have noted that Gator does pay attention when and if he sees a blue flag flying when he is coming down the front stretch, more than can be said for others.
have a good day,
schinde _________________ Short track racing is more fun than a human being ought to be allowed to have! |
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