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jason



Joined: 20 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: spartan b feature Reply with quote

I was reviewing lap times from the spartan stock b feature today and, would like to address an issue that was not caught friday night by the track or it's officials.Matt Childers ran a 15.623 in qaulifying,in the heat he ran a 15.262 which is 4 tenths of second under his time.It's my understanding of the rules that matt would be disqaulified and recieve tow money and start at the back of the A main.Matt was still allowed to start the B feature where he broke out of his time by 3 tenthsof a second.This would be a disqaulification that was not caught again.Therefore it's my understanding that Tyler Hawkins would be declared the winner.I would hope that this issue would be resolved this week along with purse and the points.I would also like to state that matt wasn't the only car to break out on time.I just wanted to address this issue in hopes that this oversite wouldn't happen again.
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Jim Leasure



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does look like he broke out in the heat but the best lap in the feature was 15.333 which is over his 15.262 Q time. Maybe I am missing something.

Lets let the scorer, Jim Barker look at it. If we missed it then we did, we don't miss many. If we did we'll be more focussed going forward but last week will stay last week. We can't re-do the results.
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jason



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

his qaulifing time was 15.623,feature time was 15.337 which is a differance of .286 seconds which is illegal.his heat time was 15.262 which is 4 tenths of a second which is illegal.I appreciate you looking into this but i won't accept nothing being done about it. When we don't enforce the few rules that we have that's when things get out of hand,like we had last year.I know a few drivers are angered by this and are watching closely hoping that the right thing is done.I quite frankly don't understand what is so hard about changing the outcome of the race when other tracks do it to make things right with drivers.I want to thank you for your time jim and i trust that you will get this right. THANK YOU!
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hulkster_97



Joined: 07 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jason does have a point what is good for one is good for all ! so in reguards to jim's comment last week is last week so why do the spartan stocks qf then if there is not going to be a brake out rukle like your rule book says . well the way i wunder stand what jim is saying is that rules are made to be broken then thats what he is saying jason
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denny



Joined: 08 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt clearly broke out in both his heat and feature.I thought this class was intended to get rid of sand bagging so that we could have good competitive racing.The rules clearly state that if you break out on your time for one lap in the B or C heat your black flagged and start on the rear of the A main,if you break out in the feature your to be black flagged and recieve tow money.If your not going to change the results from last week then I would assume that he will start on the back of the A main behind the fast car qualifier (one of the late models).If your not going to enforce the rules that you wrote then why have rules!It seems like the childers can do what the want like get out of there car on the track to go fight with someone.I was told that this was taken care of, but I have been associated with the track for more than 20 years and the rule was if you got out of your car on the track you were suspended for 2 weeks no exceptions!Were getting more cars every week and I don't wan't to send the message to new driver that if someone cheats that were not going to do anything about it and drivers get upset and don't return.The purestock class got eliminated for alot of the same reasons,I don't want to see the same thing happen to this class.I guess the big question is what message do you want to send to your drivers!
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Jim Leasure



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reviewing the times from only Friday, none of the previous races we have discovered that:

1. The scorers were under the impression that the break out rule was 2 laps for both A and B features. That is our fault. But:

2. Looking at only last Friday (no previous events) six out of ten cars broke out so the problem is not with one particular car or driver but with the break out rule. I would assume that we would see about the same if we looked back farther.

This process of bracket racing will require a little trial and error, we are pioneering a new concept that appears might have allot of merit but we have just seen the first hiccup. When we get the bugs out others may adopt the idea as well and most of the issues might be ironed out for them.

Drivers that broke out just this week were: Childers, Williams, Dollarhite, Sawade, Hawkins, Heinig, Wilt.

I will get working on this and have an answer on Friday, assuming we don't get rained out.
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jason



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We thank you for all your efforts Jim!
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